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Unofficial Summary of the Rush Limbaugh Show

for Monday, November 8, 1993

by John Switzer

This unofficial summary is copyright (c) 1993 by John Switzer.
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Please read the standard disclaimer which was included with the
first summary for this month. In particular, please note that
this summary is not approved or sanctioned by Rush Limbaugh or
the EIB network, nor do I have any connection with them other as
a daily listener.

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November 8, 1993

LIMBAUGH WATCH

November 8, 1993 - It's now day 293 for those rooted in the
middle class (day 312 for those well-rooted in wealth and those
simply well-rooted - the rich and the dead) of "America Held
Hostage" (aka the "Raw Deal") and 371 days after Bill Clinton's
election, but Rush is still on the air with 636 radio affiliates
(with more than 20 million listeners weekly world-wide), 234 TV
affiliates (with a national rating of 3.7), and a newsletter with
over 370,000 subscribers.

His first book was on the NY Times hardback non-fiction
best-seller list for 54 consecutive weeks, with 2.6 million
copies sold, but fell off the list after Simon and Schuster
stopped printing it. The paperback version of "The Way Things
Ought To Be" has been on the NY Times paperback non-fiction
best-seller list for eight weeks and is currently at number two.
Rush's second book, "See, I Told You So," has been released with
pre-order sales of over 500,000 copies.

LEST WE FORGET

The following are from the Rush Limbaugh show on Monday, November
11, 1991. Rush first addressed Veterans Day, saying that he hoped
it was being celebrated properly across the country, given that
Pearl Harbor Day had essentially been forgotten. Rush's travels,
though, had given him an appreciation for the men and women of
the military, especially after their heroism during the Gulf War.

Rush especially wanted to recall the Gulf War, given the media's
recent attempts to minimize and even denigrate America's victory
(for example, Peter Jennings' recent program on the Gulf War).
Rush made the point that America didn't fight the Gulf War to
install American values in the region; instead, America was there
to ensure the free flow of oil and to kick Iraq out of Kuwait.

Thus, Rush gave his sincere and heartfelt thanks to the members
of the military, and for their sacrifices in the cause of
freedom. Those in the military have offered their lives for the
U.S., and many have indeed given their lives. The term "hero" was
misused a lot in America, but the true definition of a hero could
be found in those who had served and were serving in the
military. In particular, the all-volunteer army was to be
praised, and Rush recalled that the number of desertions during
the Gulf War was statistically zero, even though cities such as
San Francisco and Madison tried to become "sanctuaries" for
deserters.

Rush encouraged America to take time to honor those in the
military and to thank them for their sacrifices.

********

The big news of the day was still Magic Johnson's contracting
AIDS. Jeanine from Phoenix, AZ thought it was a good point Rush
made previously that had Magic Johnson known the person he was
having sex with had AIDS, would he have continued, even with a
condom? Rush said he'd prefer not to focus on Magic Johnson's
past, but on how Johnson was going to define "safe sex." Rush
feared Johnson would equate safe sex with condoms.

Johnson was being called a hero because of his demeanor and
courage in facing his problem, but a letter in USA Today was from
someone who believed that calling Johnson a "hero" was debasing
the term. Rush took a quick survey among the members of his
studio, and most didn't think Magic Johnson deserved the "hero"
status. However, Rush hadn't seen this attitude expressed yet in
the national media.

It was known that Magic Johnson got AIDS through his own
promiscuity, so it seemed logical that his statements on safe sex
should include comments against promiscuity. However, Johnson did
not talk about either monogamy or abstinence on the Arsenio Hall
show, yet these are the two best ways to protect oneself from
AIDS.

Rush again asked if anyone would have sex with someone infected
with AIDS, even with a condom. Yet, this is exactly what is said
by giving people a condom: "you've got to assume your partner has
AIDS, otherwise why are you using a condom?" Rush was not trying
to "punish" anyone with his statements about ending promiscuous
sex, nor was he being judgemental; the bottom line was about
saving lives.

This was the major lesson to be learned from Magic Johnson - AIDS
is acquired by one's behavior, and abstinence and monogamy are
still the safest choices (even though there is still a risk given
AIDS' long incubation period). Until a cure comes along, people
should avoid risky behavior such as anal sex and sharing needles
during IV drug use.

Above all politics had to be eliminated from AIDS and the truth
had to be told. Condoms are important, but they should not be the
number one weapon against AIDS. Promiscuity should be avoided in
any case, no matter what one's sexual orientation - the sexual
revolution was a failure, as evidenced by the 46 million people
carrying sexual diseases.

Laurie from San Diego, CA thought that society's main problem was
that a lot of people didn't want to accept the consequences for
their actions - abortion was just one example, as was
promiscuity. She was sad about Magic Johnson, though, especially
as she used to assume that he had the same basic morals as she.

Hector from Albany, NY asked if the people who had been infected
by Magic Johnson were going to be helped by him. Rush answered
"who knows" but noted that at least Johnson's wife and 7-month
old baby had tested negative for AIDS. It was a good question,
though, to ask whether Johnson had spread the disease himself.

********

Other items from the show included the following:

o       EIB grew to 431 stations.

o       The Los Angeles Times reported that Doctors Debra Cohen and
Aaron Quinn of USC had suggested a tax on X-rated and R-rated
movies which depicted unsafe sex (i.e. no condoms); the tax
revenues would fund a publicity campaign to fight AIDS. Rush
remarked that this was a form of art intervention by the same
people who insisted that the NEA was constitutionally required to
fund photographs of men with bullwhips stuck in their rectums.

Furthermore, this "tax" was nothing more than a fine against
those who made movies with "improper" scripts. Rush asked if
these doctors had heard about the First Amendment, and added that
it boggled the mind that anyone would suggest putting condoms
into X-rated movies, given the behavior that occurs in such
movies.

o       Roger from the Shenandoah Valley, VA was against Rep. Dan
Rostenkowski's proposed tax credit for the middle class, which
would be financed by a tax increase on the "rich." The tax credit
would last only two years, but the tax increase would be
permanent.

Roger was 29 and used to work with his father building houses. He
ended up building about four houses a year and got about $20,000
per house. However, after all taxes, he ended up paying a total
45% income tax plus a 14.5% self-employed Social Security tax.
Roger got out of the business because some of his employees were
making more than him, even though he was working 70 hours a week.
Roger was thus against more taxes which would stifle the
entrepreneurial spirit in America.

Rush agreed that entrepreneurs were being penalized for their
efforts. However, the Democrats' attacks against the rich were
effective because 90% of the people in this country earn less
than $50,000. But the biggest thing wrong with Rostenkowski's tax
"cut" was that it was not intended to stimulate the economy but
rather was just a political ploy. What was needed was to grow the
economy and create more businesses and jobs, thereby creating
more taxpayers. Broadening the taxpayer base would decrease the
overall burden on each individual taxpayer.

o       Scientists said they'd begin a search for evidence for an
"ozone hole" over the North Pole. The "Committee for a
Constructive Tomorrow" (CFACT), however, was calling for the
ouster of a UN environmental director because he released a UN
report that stated unequivocally that depletion of the ozone
layer was occurring and that it threatened to cause world-wide
epidemics of skin cancer.

The director claimed that the report was based on an exhaustive
300-page study; however, CFACT in their October 22nd press
conference called this study a "fraud," revealing that the report
was based on only a sketchy nine-page summary, filled with
unsubstantiated assertions and almost no scientific evidence.

The actual 300-page report wouldn't be released until January,
1992 at the earliest. Thus, a supposed scientist lied to make a
wild prediction about global skin cancer epidemics, with the
intent of scaring people into adopting his agenda.

o       More than 1200 women from 83 nations met in Miami to hear
evidence of "sex discrimination in environmental policies." Bella
Abzug complained that women produced 80% of the agriculture in
Africa, 60% in Asia, and 40% in South America, yet they didn't
own land and weren't consulted on environmental policies.
Katherine Fuller, president of the World Wildlife Fund, said
"women do two-thirds of the work, but have only 10% of the
income, and 1% of the land." Rush called this poppycock, but the
EIB staff suggested a new slogan for the women: "We may have
hooters, but we aren't polluters!"

o       Jay from Atlanta, GA saw a 60 Minutes report on the "excessive"
salaries of corporate CEOs; he didn't want government to limit
these salaries, but he was concerned that taxpayers were
subsidizing these incomes by allow corporations to deduct them.
He added that this was part of the larger problem of allowing
interest and debt to be deducted, and he therefore wanted to see
the government stop allowing deductions on home interest
payments, so it could instead help people with their down
payments.

Rush's said governmental regulations were already adding up to
30% of the cost of a house, so he'd rather see these
government-caused costs reduced or eliminated - this would allow
people to buy houses without the government's help in the first
place.

o       A column in the Chicago Sun-Times reported that Senator Kennedy
was visiting Chicago in an attempt to raise his image after the
Anita Hill hearings. Rush added that a new term had entered the
language - if you're a married man being bothered by another
woman, you've got an "Anita" in your life.

o       It was announced that a Hollywood Hunger Banquet would be held
November 21st at Sony Pictures Studios to "raise consciousness"
about hunger, the homeless, and starvation. Whoopi Goldberg,
Danny Glover, and other celebrities said they would attend so
they could eat rice and beans in order to dramatize the plight of
the homeless. Rush noted that this was yet another example of
people getting credit for caring while doing nothing to actually
solve the problem. How could this "banquet" help anyone who was
really starving?

o       Carlton from Charleston, SC was watching TV with his kids and
saw a commercial for animal crackers with "endangered species."
Rush said he had heard about this commercial and how it, like so
much of the liberal agenda, was supposed to "heighten
consciousness." He bet it would instead teach kids to eat
endangered animals.

o       In Saint Paul, MN five female workers filed sexual
discrimination lawsuits against Stroh's Brewery. The women also
claimed that the company's ads for Old Milwaukee Beer, which
featured the "Swedish Bikini Parachuting Team," encouraged sexual
harassment. The women, who wanted $50,000 for each count of
sexual harassment, insisted that if these ads were based on the
notion that "women are nothing more than T&A," how could the rest
of the company be any different?

o       Aaron from Dale City, VA thought that America didn't need any
more enemies, given that it had Bush as its President. Aaron then
listed a number of Bush's transgressions: betrayal of his "no new
taxes" pledge, betrayal on the quota bill, allowing the David
Duke situation to develop as it did, not going far enough with
Iraq, further renegotiation on the 1990 Budget Deal, and
admitting that he wasn't doing enough about AIDS even though
America was spending more on AIDS than any other disease. Rush
said this was a good litany, and added that the only one of these
actions on Bush's part which he could understand was how Bush
dealt with Iraq.

********

MORNING UPDATE

Two of the world's biggest pop stars have learned that life in
the rest of the world is not quite the same as it is in the
United States. First, there's Madonna, that "icon of American
decadence," who's been told by a Brazilian judge that when she
comes to Brazil on her world tour that she had best not manhandle
the Brazilian flag as she's done with the flags of other
countries. Such treatment of the Brazilian flag is considered
disrespectful and is against Brazilian law. A lawyer who saw
Madonna wrap herself with the Puerto Rican flag asked the court
to issue this pre-emptive warning. Madonna, of course, treated
the U.S. flag in a similar manner, but nobody seemed to care
about that.

Next, there's Mikhail Gorbachev, who, before he left Russia to
appear at a Republican fund-raiser last week, lost a slander suit
and had to apologize publicly to the mayor of Moscow. Gorbachev,
by the way is not getting much respect at home, given that he is
collecting a state pension of about $3.39 a month, and that only
3.6% of the 1400 Muscovites polled in a recent survey stated that
they still had confidence in his leadership abilities. Yet, there
are those in the U.S. who still treat him as if he were a
masterful statesman.

Thus, Madonna and Gorbachev show the truth of that saying, "Only
in America."

FIRST HOUR

Items

o       Interest rates are going back up, and a number of regular
listeners are probably confused, given that Rush has said the
country is in a deflationary cycle. Rush will explain how this
all works during today's show, and how the administration has
basically built its economic plan on low interest rates.

o       Rush has trouble figuring out how a hit team of six Cubans who
are currently in a Mexican jail could assassinate Ross Perot. The
Los Angeles Times is confirming that some guy in a Mexican jail
mailed the FBI a note about how some Mexican prisoners have
targeted Perot because he opposes NAFTA. However, there's no
proof that what's in this note is accurate.

Rush finds it interesting how Perot has handled this whole
situation, especially as he told his followers not to "waste time
mourning me," but insisted that they continue the fight against
NAFTA. Rush suggests that it might be time for Perot to join that
"crazy aunt in the basement."

o       President Clinton spent an hour yesterday on Meet the Press,
and said many incredible things. For example, he warned that the
U.S. would not allow North Korea to build a nuclear bomb, but
Rush doubts that the Koreans are quaking in the boots, given that
the U.S.'s threats against the Serbs in Bosnia have been pretty
empty. However, this statement does show how the President's
administration is being shaped more by foreign policy than by
domestic issues.

The President did, though, talk about how the country had big
problems in its urban areas, and he stated that race relations
were better than ever. However, it was Clinton who last month
criticized white voters in New York for not wanting to vote for
someone who "looks different."

The President also attacked big labor for its opposition to
NAFTA, and Rush thinks he was absolutely right to do so. Although
Perot is getting all the press about NAFTA, it's big labor which
is working hard in Congress to make sure members of Congress
don't support this agreement.

o       Rush watched "the idiot parachutist" land at the fight last
weekend, and was amazed that anyone could be that stupid.

o       Rush was in Chicago last night to attend the ceremonies at
which six people, including him, were inducted into the Radio
Hall of Fame. He was lucky to meet a number of people he hadn't
yet met, such as Paul Harvey, but it was also noteworthy because
this was the first time that he can remember when an awards
presenter actually criticized the person receiving the award.

Of course, it was Rush who was so "honored" by such a
presentation, and he marvels at how his induction into this, the
very business to which he has devoted his life, could be
politicized in such a manner. After the break, Rush will play the
relevant bits of the induction ceremony, and he thinks the
excerpts will speak for themselves.

*BREAK*

Last night's ceremonies were held in Chicago and broadcast live
to about 90 radio stations across the country. Six awards were
given, and Rush's award was the fourth. The awards presenter for
this was Sally Jesse Raphael, a fact which Rush didn't know until
he arrived in Chicago yesterday afternoon. Rush plays Raphael's
presentation speech:

"I promised Larry I would make up the minute. Thank you very much
for allowing me to be here at this function of the Young
Republicans Club of, uh, Greater Chicago. After 37 years in radio
with 25 stations, this is a heck of a testosteron [sic] evening.
But I'll . . . really . . . do what I can to add a little bit of
femininity.

"Considering who the recipient is <<heavy sigh>> . . . he calls
women like me `femnazis' [sic] . . . so I will read this as
written for me. Please note it does not express my opinions.
<<laughter and applause>> I, uh, you gotta admit putting Rush
Limbaugh, Sally Jesse Raphael, and Larry King on the stage means
that radio makes strange bedfellows.

"I have the pleasure of introducing radio's most outspoken talker
and winner in this year's Syndicated Personality category . . .
the Radio Hall of Fame bestows that award on an active
broadcaster who's made significant contributions to the industry.
Larry King is a past winner in this category. Tonight the 1993
Radio Hall of Fame welcomes Rush Limbaugh. <<wild applause and
cheering>>"

Rush notes that as Sally Jesse Raphael continued to read
statistics about his success, she again made reference to how she
disagreed with this award. Several people at Rush's table
encouraged him to take a shot back, but he decided not to do so
for a number of reasons. First, he didn't want to end up on
Raphael's level, nor did he want to detract from the integrity of
the evening. Instead, he simply said the following:

"Thank you. Thank you very much. I am truly humbled, ladies and
gentlemen. I actually never thought this would happen and I am
truly gratified to all those responsible for it, and the list is
long. I would like to start with how this radio program actually
started. Five years ago, I was brought to New York by Ed
McLaughlin, to whom I probably owe everything as far as this
national career of mine has gone. And we wanted to try something
that everybody in the business said wouldn't work: we were going
to syndicate a national program in the daytime, without local
issues, without local phone numbers and so forth, and nobody in
the business thought it would work. And today, if I might say,
most radio stations looking to succeed are looking to syndicated
programming for their salvation. And Ed McLaughlin in the man
responsible for this, and I would like to tip my hat to him
tonight for the courage to take on that which nobody thought
could be done. Ed, stand up! <<heavy applause and whistling>>

"I would also like to thank the American people. I have often
been asked to go speak to associations, broadcast associations,
and I've always turned down the request because I don't know what
I would say to them. I say what I say to the American people, and
any chance I have to speak to them, I do. And I am so grateful
and so honored for the overwhelming change in my life that they
have brought. Regardless of what I mean to them, I am certain
that I will never mean as much to them as they mean to me.

"I would also like to thank my family . . . my mother is here, my
brother and his wife are also here tonight, as well as members of
our broadcast company. You know, who else I would also like to
thank, too, and I'm sure I'm going to leave some people out here,
and I don't intend to, but so many standards of excellence have
been set by so many previous inductees, including tonight's, that
all that I can hope to do is try to approximate them as I go
through my career. And if one day I'm judged to have done that,
then I will consider it to have been worth it and a success.

"When I moved to New York, I didn't plan on becoming a political
spokesman. In fact, politics was the last thing I factored in, in
determining whether or not I would be a success. I was coming to
be on radio, a media guy, and I love radio! I do television, too,
but that microphone is right here, and that camera is 20 feet
away. And there's intimacy on the radio, and a naturalness on the
radio that can never be replicated on TV. TV is the media of our
time, there's no question, but I'm proud to be part of the
marvelous resurgence of radio as a political force in this
country.

"Four years ago, when people went to vote, people said, `My gosh,
there aren't enough people voting. There's apathy, people don't
care!' Today, the Congress of the United States is attempting to
shut talk radio up because people care too much. And I am proud
to be a part of that. <<heavy applause>>

"I want to say one more thing very quickly. When I came to New
York there was <<one second was dropped by my local affiliate>>
standard. That's what I'm up against, that's who I consider my
competition to be. If Larry King had not shown that syndicated
talk programming would work, I wouldn't have had a chance. I
thank Larry King as well, and thank all of you. Thank all of you
for allowing me to run long."

Rush notes that the back half of the room, where most of the
applause came, was the general community. The front half,
composed of the broadcasting community, gave polite applause, if
that. This, of course, is just another indication of how the left
directs their contempt not only towards Rush but also his
audience; Rush is certain that this contempt, however, only
encourages both him and his audience. he adds that the Radio Hall
of Fame inductees are selected by radio broadcasters, and thus
when Sally Jesse Raphael insulted him, she basically insulted
these broadcasters as well, not to mention Rush's own audience.

After Rush's remarks, Larry King, who truly is the modern
founding father of syndicated programming, given that he showed
syndicated shows could work back in 1979, came up to make his own
remarks. When King came out, he gave Rush a bear hug and slapped
him on the back, but he also took his own shot at Rush, which
Rush will play after the break.

*BREAK*

Rush plays Larry King's response:

"Thank you, that was very kind, that was very kind of Rush to say
that. We are friends, we are competitors, of course, in a sense,
but we are friends, too, because we both love this business.
There's a new organization being formed in fact - it's called
`Feminists, the Homeless, and Blacks for Limbaugh,' and they're
meeting in a phone booth in Wichita."

Rush lets those comments stand on their own, but he adds that
EIB's Chicago affiliate, WLS, spent quite a bit of time this
morning talking about what happened. Rush had told his friends
and associates beforehand that there would be a number of shots
taken at him during his awards dinner, but nobody believed him.
Rush, though, has grown accustomed to this sort of thing, which
only demonstrates the intolerance of the left and how they are
incapable of practicing the love of diversity which they profess
to have.

On balance, therefore, Rush smiled about what happened last night
because what really happened is that the left demonstrated
exactly who they are. And as to Sally Jesse Raphael's comment
that she didn't agree with the presentation of this award to
Rush, Rush can't object; after all, who is she but a television
talk show host whose program leads the pack in being the modern
American museum of societal decay. Every day on her show, the
country is treated to a new round of perverts and other assorted,
dysfunctional Americans, who are presented as being
representative of mainstream America.

Rush doesn't think Raphael's program is uplifting in any way; all
it does is depress people and evoke tears. So, is Raphael thinks
that Rush's program is something she can't associate with, then
so much the better for EIB.

Rush again points out that he has rejected many requests to speak
from organizations such as the National Association of
Broadcasters; not only is his time very precious to him, but he
sees no reason to go into hostile situations. He also has nothing
to say to broadcasters in general, but he'll talk to the American
people any time he gets. It is only because of the people's
loyalty and support for him that he has been able to do what he
has done, and this is why he was inducted into the Radio Hall of
Fame.

Rush thus wants to keep his focus on whether his audience will be
satisfied by each day's performance, and whether they think
they've got their money's worth. He couldn't care any less about
what the small-minded, shallow, envious, and jealous has-beens of
broadcasting think of him, especially since they are
demonstrating only the basest aspects of human nature.

*BREAK*

Rush looks back on the incredible week which just passed: he got
a decent story in Time magazine, as well as one in the New
Republic. There was also a superb story in the Economist of
London, and all three stories dealt with the seriousness of
Rush's show and its true impact. There was also the 20-20 profile
of him done by Barbara Walters, and of course his induction into
the Radio Hall of Fame (where he got "dissed" by members of his
own industry).

Phone   Jim from Woodland, CA

Jim gives libertarian dittos and says that he really enjoyed
Rush's interview in Playboy. Rush is glad to hear that, and notes
that many people will unfortunately miss out on this interview
because they simply won't buy Playboy for any reason. Jim thinks
they should go out and get this issue anyway, especially since
it's so remarkable that it printed so much of the interview with
Rush.

Rush says that he spent eight hours being interviewed by Playboy,
and the magazine actually wanted to publish the entire interview
in a book form. Rush, though, is pleased with what he had to say
during that interview, and he feels good how this interview is
anything but "preaching to the choir."

Jim is a graduate student at CSU Sacramento, and he was studying
last week for his economics class. One of the authors of his
textbook is Allen Blinder, who is now on Clinton's Council of
Economic Advisers. Binder he wrote the following passage in his
discussion of income and market prices: "If equality is our goal,
might not a more reasonable solution be to use the tax system to
equalize income and then let the market mechanism distribute
goods in accord with preferences?"

Rush says this is exactly what liberals believe, and he applauds
Jim for noticing this piece of text and knowing why it's wrong.
Rush adds that in his new book he mentions a lot about this, and
even has one entire chapter on Michael Lerner, Hillary Clinton's
"guru," publisher of Tikkun magaziner, and someone "who's so far
out that it's funny to watch him take himself seriously."

Lerner is the architect of Hillary's treasured "politics of
meaning," and Rush spent an entire chapter on Lerner, his
writings, and all that he's done. Rush had thought about removing
this chapter when the book went to press because Lerner hadn't
been in the news much lately; however, Rush decided to keep the
chapter, which proved to be the right choice because Lerner is
now coming back on the scene. If Jim was shocked by what his
college textbook revealed about liberals, Rush suggests he read
this chapter in "See, I Told You So," because it lays raw much of
what the left truly believes.

Phone   Lynn from Hammonton, NJ

Rush welcomes the EIB's audience favorite caller, and she
congratulates Rush on his induction into the Radio Hall of Fame.
She comments that people like Sally Jesse Raphael are "profoundly
stupid"; she realized this last week when Charlie Rose was
interviewing Tim Russert, Cokie Roberts, and R.W. "Johnny" Apple.
Lynn was disgusted and embarrassed by how Cokie giggled and
laughed like someone who had an excess of adult beverages, and
how the group didn't seem to take what the Clinton administration
was doing to the country very seriously. Lynn considers the group
to be a "sorry lot" that is an embarrassment to the United
States.

Rush says that the best way to describe the differences between
someone like him and someone like Sally Jesse Raphael is that
people like her say things in an attempt to "please the right
people." The liberal elite waits to see what the correct liberal
spin is on any issue, and then they begin scratching each other's
backs so that they're all always politically correct. Many of
those in the Washington Beltway do exactly this - they say what
they have to say so that they can be sure of remaining on the "A"
lists and get invited to all the best parties.

Many conservatives who go to the Beltway can get caught up in
this, but it is truly a shallow existence for people to build
their lives and careers upon the notion of trying to say the
"right" things. This is nothing more than "sycophantism" - the
art of kissing rear-ends - and when these sort of people get
challenged and confronted on their beliefs, they respond in the
immature and shallow manner evidenced by Raphael last night.

Raphael could have gotten her point across in a much more
effective manner. She could have said two weeks ago that she was
asked to present this award before knowing that Rush would be the
recipient, and therefore refused to go to the ceremonies. She
could have made a big deal about this and gotten a lot more
favorable coverage than what she did last night. Had Raphael
really felt this way, she could have handled in a much more
mature manner.

There was no reason to turn the ceremonies into a political event
- the people from NPR didn't nor did the very liberal Studds
Turkel. From what Rush has heard, Raphael's staff was saying that
she couldn't wait to present this award, which is curious since
Raphael once tried to keep Rush's TV show out of the same studio
complex which she uses. Raphael's distaste towards Rush has not
been much of a secret.

*BREAK*

Ted Danson and Whoopi Goldberg are now "splitsville"; Rush knew
that this was coming because when he saw Danson a few days ago,
"he had a dark expression on his face."

*BREAK*

SECOND HOUR

Ross Perot, who once claimed that the Bush administration was
going to doctor photos of his daughter, is now claiming that
members of the Mexican mafia were going to assassinate him Sunday
in Tampa. Six Mexican prisoners allegedly wanted to get rid of
Perot because he is opposing NAFTA.

The FBI is investigating a note sent by someone in a Mexican
prison about this, but there's no proof that the six would-be
assassins exist. Regardless, though, "that little hand grenade
with a bad crewcut" took to the stage Sunday and virtually
martyred himself before even being shot.

Proclaiming his willingness to be a "clay pigeon" for the sake of
the American people, Perot urged his fans "don't mourn if I am
killed, just make sure you stop NAFTA with me or without me."
This is why Rush has always found it difficult to take Ross Perot
seriously - how can any Perot supporter defend something like
this? Even if there really were a Mexican mafia that wanted Perot
dead, what kind of man plays this sort of situation up as Perot
did?

If the FBI tells you that there's a serious threat against you,
what kind of man makes himself a "clay pigeon"? Rush suspects
that this sort of thing is why the White House wants to debate
Perot. He adds that about 3,000 people showed up in Tampa for
Perot's rally, which is a decent-sized crowd in terms of raw
numbers; however, given that the rally was free and promoted
heavily for days, it really isn't much of a crowd at all.

The polls are showing that Perot is losing his loyal support inch
by inch, which is why some critics asked why the White House
wanted to elevate and dignify him by having him debate the Vice
President. Why do such a thing to help prop up someone on their
way down?

Perot has essentially said that NAFTA is worth losing his life
for, but this really isn't that big an issue for anybody. "It
ain't worth dying for, not NAFTA!" Rush states, adding that
Perot's comments trivialize the ultimate sacrifices which other
Americans have made throughout this country's history. Rush
therefore hopes that this latest escapade raises some doubts in
the minds of some NAFTA fence-sitters about whom they should be
listening to.

Rush notes that he got a lot of letters over the weekend
chastising him for assuming that all anti-NAFTA types are
following Perot; these people pointed out that just because they
oppose NAFTA doesn't mean they are mind-numbed robots, as Rush's
listeners are also often accused of being. Rush thinks this is a
good point, and he admits he has fallen prey to the conventional
wisdom that everyone opposed to NAFTA is a Perotista.

Rush should have remembered that the opposition to NAFTA is
coming mainly from the President's own party and its number one
special interest group, Big Labor. Of course, Perot is a factor,
but the fact is that if the battle over NAFTA is going to be won,
it's going to be won on Capitol Hill, not on Larry King Live,
CNN, or elsewhere. This isn't meant to denigrate King or CNN, but
rather point out that it's in Congress where the votes for NAFTA
lie.

It might be too late to get any groundswell of support started at
the grass roots levels for NAFTA, but Congress is where the
battle will be won or lost. Rush adds that he's not a full,
thoroughbred supporter of NAFTA, especially since it is
inevitable that if the agreement gets passed, there will be a
number of Marjorie Margolis-Mezvinsky type deals made in exchange
for members' support. There are a lot of "spineless congressman"
who know that NAFTA is, on balance, a good thing, but they're
being scared to death by the threats made against them by Big
Labor and Perot.

NAFTA is being portrayed as a Presidential issue in which the
President has to take his case to the American people and present
it as a foreign policy issue. Rush agrees because it is a foreign
issue, as well as an economic one; however the administration
which is now trying to sell it not only has a bad reputation on
foreign policy issues but it's also the most anti-business
administration that's come along in a long while.

Hillary Clinton and her husband have been beating up
pharmaceuticals and health insurance companies, and implementing
punitive taxes on business and assaulting anyone who achieves,
yet now they expect people to believe that they have businesses'
best interests at heart. And as far as foreign policy is
concerned, the administration has screwed up Somalia, Haiti,
Bosnia, etc. but it expects the nation to believe that it knows
what it's doing now. Then, on top of it all, Bill Clinton is
acting as if he's put the fear of God and the U.S. into North
Korea over its nuclear weapons program.

In normal circumstances, if Reagan were President and if Perot
were behaving as if he is now, Perot would have been laughed off
the stage. There's a three-ring circus going on, and it's the
guys in the straitjackets who are the negotiators on this issue.

Rush can't believe that anyone would even debate the concept of
free trade, especially since Perot and his son have their own
free-trade zone with their airport in Alliance, TX. A reporter
recently asked Perot why NAFTA was bad if he had his own
free-trade zone. Perot called this a stupid question, and pointed
out that his airport was in Texas, implying that free-trade zones
in the U.S. were okay.

Perot was thus threatening that NAFTA would encourage businesses
to move out of the U.S. into Mexico. However, companies can go
into Mexico already, and the fact is that NAFTA will give them
many reasons why they should instead stay in the U.S. Turning the
entire country into a free trade zone under NAFTA is no different
than the free-trade zone which Perot has gotten for himself and
his son.

Rush can understand that some people can read the NAFTA agreement
and still come away opposing it, but he hopes that those who are
opposing it simply because Perot is calling it an evil deal will
rethink their position. Last Friday Rush exposed the hypocrisy in
the book Perot and Choat wrote, and he demonstrated how these two
men would use any criticism they could against NAFTA, even if
those criticisms were contradictory.

Rush doesn't think there is any justification for building a wall
around the country and keeping prices up via protectionism.
Competition is not a bad thing, yet throughout society there are
those who portray competition as something unfair and to be
avoided. Rush would normally love seeing the President suffer
because of NAFTA and how it's tearing apart the Democratic
coalition, but he's got to think of the country first, and NAFTA
will benefit the country.

*BREAK*

Phone   John from Marion, IA

John agrees with Rush is saying about NAFTA, and he thinks this
issue has to be considered on a long-term level, on what is good
for the entire country. John is unemployed right now, but he has
to look at the future and consider what will ensure the country's
economic security; that's why he supports NAFTA.

Rush says the problem is that many of the NAFTA opponents think
they are taking the long-term view and putting their country
first by opposing NAFTA. Unfortunately, too many people have
turned this issue into a "whom do you believe issue," and aren't
considering the actual agreement. John agrees and notes that the
anti-NAFTA foes have been working hard for more than a year,
while the administration has gotten out of the gate late.

John hopes that if nothing else, the debate between Perot and
Al Gore will prove the notion that the more one sees of Perot, the
more one dislikes him. Thus, the administration may be hoping
that if they raise him up on a pedestal, he may come crashing
down. Rush agrees and suspects this is one of the
administration's hopes, and if anything the White House is
probably lamenting that Perot didn't wait until Tuesday to come
out with his statements about how he's been targeted by the
Mexican mafia.

*BREAK*

In his comments in Meet the Press yesterday, President Clinton
stood up for the American family and complained that the
disintegration of the family was leading to many of society's
current problems. This is amazing, given that only one year ago
Clinton's own party ridiculed Dan Quayle for talking about family
values. In his comments, Clinton attacked the breakdown of inner
city families, saying that "we have allowed a whole group of us
to drift away."

Rush points out, though, that these people have not been allowed
to drift away; instead, the liberal wing of the Democratic party,
along with the civil rights leadership has forced them out of the
mainstream. Liberals have enraged these people and gotten them to
hate America; using the politics of multiculturalism, the left
has balkanized society and created deep divisions within it.

Rush thinks it is important that conservatives claim victory now
that the left is starting to come back to the conclusion that
family values are important. It is the left that has devalued
marriage and that has insisted that the benefits of marriage be
given to a broader spectrum of couples.

The people who have been consistent on upholding family values
have been conservatives and Republicans. It was only two Augusts
ago, when the Republican convention made family values its main
focus, that the GOP was ridiculed and attacked for its focus on
"cultural" issues. Yet now liberals, the same people who attacked
Republicans such as Quayle for worrying about "family values,"
have now concluded that the family is important, after all.

The right, though, has been saying this for years, and the
late-arriving liberals can't be allowed to claim this issue as
its own. The left will try to give the right wing half-credit,
but at the same time will insist that the right had "butchered"
the real message; liberals will then claim that only they really
know the true meaning of family values. Conservatives can't allow
them to do this.

Conservatives must stand up and welcome the left in, but the left
can't be allowed to usurp these values, since it is the left and
the policies of the left which have caused the very problems
which family values must now solve.

Phone   John from West Long Beach, NJ

John thanks Rush for helping New Jersey kick out Florio, but Rush
says it's the voters of New Jersey who deserve this praise. John
adds that today is the third anniversary of his becoming a
citizen; he was originally born in Ireland, but after many years
he finally became an American citizen three years ago, and he's
glad to be able to celebrate that anniversary by talking to the
"posterboy of the American way of life."

Rush likes that particular phrase and promises to steal it and
use it as his own. John is glad to be of service, and says he
moved into the U.S. in 1983. He had to wait seven years before
applying for citizenship, but it took only about six months of
paperwork after that. Since it took his family about five years'
worth of paperwork to get to the U.S. in the first place, John
didn't mind spending another six months to become a citizen. Rush
congratulates him on his anniversary and thanks him for calling.

Phone   Bob from Three Rivers, MI

Bob first asks if Rush has gotten any more recent information
about his second book's sales. Rush says he hasn't gotten
anything other than what his editor told him Friday; Simon and
Schuster, though, has already proclaimed "See, I Told You So" as
the fastest selling book in the company's history.

Bob says he saw Ross Perot's "little show" on CSPAN this morning,
and it looked more like a religious revival festival than a
political rally. Rush says he didn't see this program since he
spent nearly the entire day yesterday flying to and from Chicago
and Cape Girardeau. From what he's heard about it, though, it
appears Perot played up his martyr image.

Bob says that the event was more like "Brother Love's Travelling
Salvation Show" than an anti-NAFTA rally. He states he was never
a Perot supporter, but his objective opinion is that Perot is
gaining some momentum, even though the Tampa audience was on the
small side. Rush says Perot likes to go to Tampa because it's one
of the first sites for his presidential rallies. In June, 1991,
long before his appearance on Larry King Live, Perot appeared at
"Perot for President" rallies in both Kansas City and Tampa.

Jack Gargin also happens to live in Tampa, and Gargin was the
head of "Throw the Rascals Out," an anti-Congress movement.
Gargin is a Perot supporter, so Perot finds Tampa to be fertile
ground, given that Gargin's own grass roots effort is so strong
there. Rush thus theorizes that Perot considers Tampa to be the
home of the Perot movement.

Thus, if there was a small crowd in Tampa, then it shows how his
popularity is fading. Rush recalls that Perot used to draw big
crowds in California, but he rarely goes there anymore. The crowd
in Tampa, though, should have been huge if Perot was on the
leading edge of a huge grass-roots movement against NAFTA.

*BREAK*

Items

o       The trial of Lorena Bobbitt starts today; Bobbitt sliced off
her husband's penis after allegedly being raped by him. Rush has
heard that defense attorneys are going to claim that Lorena can't
be held responsible for her actions because she "went off
half-cocked." The Bobbitts are also seeking a divorce, and Lorena
Bobbitt's seeking half of everything. Rush comments "she did have
half."

o       Madonna caused an uproar last week when she wrapped herself in
a Brazilian flag, so after a Brazilian court banned a repeat of
this action, Madonna decided to use a soccer team's pennant
instead. Madonna did the same thing with the American flag, but
nobody in this country seemed to care; the greater interest
seemed to be about what she did with the pole. Rush bets Madonna
is using the soccer team's pennant simply is a sign of her
respect and her thanks for "all the team has done to, uh, for
her."

*BREAK*

Phone   Brent from Massachusetts Institute of Technology, MA

Brent says hello to his fiance, the woman he's going to marry in
54 days, on January 1st. Rush is envious that Brent is so excited
about his upcoming wedding that he's counting down the days. He
jokes, though, that Brent should videotape the wedding so should
the day come, he can play the tape backwards and watch himself
walk away from the altar a free man.

Brent knows that won't be necessary and adds that he and his
bride will be honeymooning in Hawaii. Rush says this is one of
his favorite places, and Brent jokes that he and his wife will be
"boar-hunting and surfing" for two weeks. Rush tells Brent that
this itinerary won't work very well for a honeymoon, and Brent
replies that they actually will be spending two weeks at a
bread-and-breakfast inn, in their own private bungalow on Kawaii.
They do hope to do some hiking, though.

Rush says his first trip to Hawaii was in 1988, right before he
moved to New York. Also at his hotel were newlyweds who were up
at dawn, and they didn't come back until late at night. Rush had
to wonder why anyone would do such things on their honeymoon. He
asks Brent to hold on through the break so he can get some more
information on Brent's honeymoon during the third hour.

*BREAK*

THIRD HOUR

Phone   Brent from M.I.T., MA (continued)

Rush says he is now jealous of Brent because the last time he
went to Hawaii, he was there during Christmas and New Year. He
loved his visit, which included a tour of Pearl Harbor as well as
a nuclear sub. He'd love to go back, but it's a bit late to make
end-of-the-year plans now.

Brent says that bread-and-breakfast places would probably have
spaces available, should Rush get a spur of the moment urge to go
back. He notes, though, that he and his fiancee, Barbara, are a
conservative couple with old-fashioned values, so they aren't
living together and are waiting until after their marriage "to do
married-people things." Thus, Brent admits that they probably
won't get a chance to do much boar hunting.

Rush agrees totally and bets Brent probably has no idea of what
his future will bring. "I wish I could be there," Rush states,
predicting that Brent and his bride might get to tour a volcano
on day ten of their two-week honeymoon.

Rush notes that he is taking his usual two-week vacation at the
end of this year, but he hasn't made any plans yet. He'd love to
head out to Hawaii, but he admits that not only is it probably
too late to do so now, but "Joan Lunden probably has other
plans."

Brent moves on to his topic of NAFTA, and Rush interrupts to
predict that by the time of his honeymoon, Brent probably won't
care one bit about NAFTA. Brent agrees, but for the moment he's a
free trader who supports NAFTA; however, he's worried whether the
NAFTA side agreements will stick Mexico with their equivalent of
the EPA, OSHA, etc.

Rush says this is an interesting subject since many critics of
NAFTA complain that Mexican companies will have an unfair
advantage precisely because they don't have an OSHA or EPA to
deal with. This reminds Rush of his suggestion that the best
thing that could be done for American business is to export
liberalism - send chapters of NOW, environmental extremists, etc.
to all of the US's competitors.

However, the real answer is not to bog down other countries with
the U.S.'s shackles, but rather get rid of all the things that
bog U.S. companies down now. Rush confesses, though, that he is
not as interested in NAFTA's side agreements as he is in what
kind of backroom agreements the President will cut with
individual congressmen to get their support for NAFTA. How many
"Marjorie Margolis-Mezvinsky type deals" will be made during the
next two weeks?

Rush agrees that there are some things to be concerned about with
regards to NAFTA, but he counsels Brent to "screw it - enjoy your
honeymoon!" He asks Brent how old he and Barbara are, and he
replies he's 32 and she's 27. Rush thinks Brent is doing his
marriage exactly right. Brent says that the two of them met at
church eight years ago, and when she broke up with her boyfriend,
he asked her to lunch. They then went to see a movie, and things
gradually happened. The nice thing is that they began as friends
and their relationship grew from there.

Rush thinks that's great, but comments that having a woman tell
you "let's just be friends" is the deathknell to any man's
romantic hopes. Brent says that one day Barbara smiled at him,
and he realized how pretty she was. He adds "I don't think Ozzie
and Harriet were so bad," so he's not complaining at all. Rush
says that June and Ward Cleaver were pretty nice, too, although
the mother of Dennis the Menace was a bit strange.

Brent says the 50's were a great era, but the 60's were a
disaster, and Rush agrees. He again congratulates Brent and his
fiancee and asks how the two of them are getting to Hawaii. Brent
says that his father flies across the world on business, so he's
accumulated all sorts of frequent flyer miles; he thus gave them
two round-trip tickets as a wedding gift.

This reminds Rush that he still has zillions of frequent flyer
miles which he accrued during his Rush to Excellence tours. They
all expire at the end of the year, so he's got to find someone to
give them to. The EIB staff suggest that Rush spend his two weeks
vacation flying all over the world - never landing, just flying -
but Rush dismisses that notion. He muses on whether he could use
these frequent flyer miles as perks for congressmen to get NAFTA
passed. He thanks Brent for calling.

********

Items

o       Rush adds that he forgot to mention in the first hour that he
met Paul Harvey last night at the Radio Hall of Fame ceremonies.
Harvey was one of the founders of the Radio Hall of Fame, and
both he and his wife Angel picked up the check for last night's
dinner. Harvey was nice and gracious, and the epitome of class
(and somewhat distressed at how the ceremonies were politicized).
In fact, Rush notes, everyone was especially nice to his family,
especially his mother; Larry King even went out of his way to
find Rush's mother and give her a kiss.

o       Someone evidently was tired of seeing Jack Kevorkian on the
front pages of the newspapers, so he bailed Dr. Death out of
jail. Rush bets Kevorkian's attorney won't like this and will
soon be scrambling to find some other way to get his client back
on the front pages.

*BREAK*

Items

o       In what Rush predicts will be a coming trend, people who made
$125,000 or more in 1992 won't be able to claim emergency
unemployment benefits if they lose their job, thanks to a recent
Senate vote. The Senate voted 76 to 24 to cut off benefits via a
means test, and Rush notes that this goes right along with the
redistribution of income which the administration has made its
main goal.

Rush predicts that the income threshold for benefits will
continue to drop, and points out this is just the latest
philosophical attack on achievers. He points out that those who
earned $125,000 a year have paid the maximum into Social
Security, FICA, unemployment, etc.; yet those benefits are either
going to be denied or taxed.

o       A glue addict in Brazil ended up stuck to the floor after he
tipped over a big canister of glue during a sniffing session. The
19-year-old addict broke into a carpenter's shop to get at the
clue and was found several hours later firmly stuck to the
ground. Rush marvels at the seemingly endless ability of people
to do stupid things.

o       The Canadian government last Friday denied allegations that it
was allowing the sale of seal penises for Chinese sex potions,
and called these accusations "crass sensationalism." A Federal
Fisheries spokesman denied the reports, and said that the
government had no information or evidence that Canadian seal
penises were being exported to China. "See," Rush points out,
"another reason why we need NAFTA!" He wonders if users of
Chinese sex potions know or care that these potions include seal
penises.

o       The Georgia House Ethics Committee recommended that a state
legislator be reprimanded for bringing a cloth-covered penis sex
toy onto the floor of the House. The legislator admitted he
accepted the sex toy from a lobbyist and that he demonstrated it
on the House floor and in a hallway, but he denied deliberately
showing it to a 14-year-old page.

o       Teenagers in St. John's, New Brunswick, will soon participate
in a contest to come up with the best line to refuse sex. The
"Let's Not" contest is part of an AIDS-awareness program, and a
local D.J. will ask leading questions of the students to see what
kind of lines they come up with to refuse the advance. The goal,
according to contest organizers, is to get teenagers thinking
about this and to help them build their refusal skills.

Rush says that this is not that bad an idea, but the EIB staff
say the answer is simple: just say "let's be friends." Rush
agrees that this comment is like icewater on any man, but he
points out that learning how to say no is hard. He comments that
he has hired two people to say no for him, in regards to all
sorts of things, simply because he personally has a hard time
saying no. These people tell Rush what they've refused on his
behalf only after saying no; otherwise, Rush would tend to
undercut them by saying yes to everything.

Phone   Hal from Ft. Lauderdale, FL

Hal says that on last Tuesday he went to a town meeting and got
to meet Donna Shalala. Hal was at first confused about what he
heard, but now that he's thought about it, he's "terrified." For
example, Shalala said that she was qualified to be head of Health
and Human Services because she had been an academic all her life.
Rush asks Hal to hang on through the break so that the nation can
hear Shalala's stirring resume.

*BREAK*

Phone   Hal from Ft. Lauderdale, FL (continued)

Hal continues on to say that Shalala said that she ran Hunter's
College in New York, which used to be an all-women's school. Rush
says that Shalala also was chancellor at the University of
Wisconsin at Madison, where students nearly rioted a couple of
weeks ago. Rush asks Hal if he knew this, and discovers that Hal
is no longer on the line, evidently a victim of EIB's phone
system. Rush notes that he could tell the phone system needed to
be "flushed" because all of its lights suddenly blinked off a few
moments ago.

Vinny the EIB mailguy comes in with a box, causing Rush to
rejoice. He decides to open the box on the air, thinking that
it's the gift he got for his staff. However, just as he's about
to rip the paper, he decides against it, saying that he doesn't
want his audience to have to listen to such things, especially
since they can't see what's going on.

Returning to the subject of Shalala, Rush recalls that she
attended a football game at the University of Wisconsin two weeks
ago and was pelted with marshmallows by the students. Since a lot
of women stormed the field after the game, some wags are saying
that they were motivated by their excitement to be close to
Shalala.

Phone   Steve from Atlanta, GA

Steve is not on the line, so Rush wonders what the heck is going
on with his phone system. "We've got no phonal activity
whatsoever," he sighs. While the staff figure things out, he
decides to turn to the story by E.J. Montini about the fires in
Los Angeles which he mentioned last Friday. Rush recalls that he
predicted that should it be discovered that any of those fires
were caused by some homeless or otherwise destitute person, the
left would try to rationalize and excuse their actions.

Montini has proven Rush right, as he wrote in the Arizona
Republic last week a column titled "Passion Play Burns Out in
Face of Truth." Montini wrote some amazing things, such as the
following:

"It was almost as if the wind and fire had conspired in a crime,
as if the wind had convinced the flames that together they should
launch an attack against the prosperous and smug on behalf of the
poor and the destitute. The sinister wind then whipped a homeless
man's campfire into a frenzy, and the homes of the wealthy were
reduced to dust. Afterwards, while the smoke cleared and the
embers cooled, the rest of us were left to contemplate what
appeared to be a bit of pure irony, an instance of poetic
justice: a homeless person had made homeless the rich. So the
irony of the fires of southern California was swallowed up by
reality. It's that way with all natural disasters - the end
result never changes: the poor lose less than the rich, but
suffer more."

Thus, the fires of southern California have become an instrument
of justice. Rush promises to put this amazing quote on his TV
show tonight, but he's still amazed that any journalist could
call these fires "poetic justice."

Phone   Dave from Woodcliff Lake, NJ

Dave gives dittos from the state which has only two more months
of its air being polluted by "Florio-carbons." He says that Perot
has done at least one thing for the country - he's let the
country see what a Texan looks like with the B.S. let out. Rush
asks Dave if he was a Perot supporter once, and Dave replies
"never." Rush asks Bo to find him some callers who are Perot
supporters so that he can find out what they think of their guy's
standing up on stage saying he'll take a bullet for them, but
that this didn't matter because NAFTA had to be stopped.

Dave says he heard Clinton on Meet the Press and was floored by
how the President said that family values were now a crisis
situation; last year Clinton thought family values were a joke,
but now this issue is a crisis. Clinton also mentioned foreign
policy, trying to say that he was doing a masterful job handling
foreign issues, especially Russia.

However, Clinton then made a special point of saying he inherited
Somalia, Haiti, and Bosnia. Rush says this is nothing new -
Clinton passes the buck continually; he even passed the buck on
Tuesday's debate with Perot, saying that this debate was all his
Vice President's idea. Thus, Clinton has already tried to cover
himself should the debate end up being a debacle. This is just
part and parcel of how the President operates.

Rush notes that the phones are once again working, and he points
out that he was the one who "fixed" things, because he, in his
broadcasting wisdom, told his staff that the phone system had to
be flushed. "You are back on the air because of me," he tells his
callers.

*BREAK*

Phone   Dave from Cleveland, OH

Dave is a former Perot supporter, and Rush says that his voice
sounds familiar. Dave says he was once in broadcasting in both
Philadelphia and Cleveland, and he remembers Rush back when he
was using the name Jeff Christie in Pittsburgh. "Ah, the glory
days!" Rush recalls.

Dave says he once circulated petitions for Perot, having been
fooled by his "plain folks talk" and his persona of being "for
the regular people." Dave now thinks that Perot is working for
only Ross Perot, in his pursuit for personal power; "what's good
for Ross Perot is good for the country" seems to be Perot's
motivation now.

Rush asks Dave when he first began to move away from Perot, and
Dave replies that he read a book by a Wall Street Journal
reporter about Perot. This got him thinking, and then when he
started listening to Rush more intently, he became convinced of
Perot's real aims.

Rush says that Larry King last night told him that he didn't
think Perot knows the NAFTA issue as well as Vice President Gore
does. Dave is certain of this - Perot knows the issue from only
one perspective, and he can't see anything that's outside of his
"tunnel vision" approach.

Dave thinks the polls are right in indicating that Perot is
losing support, and he's certain that Perot won't be a major
force in 1996. Instead, Dave bets that the Republicans will
present a clear challenge to Clinton by then.

Rush asks how Dave reacted to Perot's re-entry into the
Presidential race last year, and Dave says that it became obvious
to him back then that Perot had some serious mental problems.
Rush says that one of the thing he noticed about the original
Perot supporters was that they devoted nearly everything they had
to him.

Dave says this is true - he gave financial support as well as
distributing petitions. However, as time went by, he became
convinced that Perot had some serious mental problems. Rush
recalls that last year on his TV show he stated that Perot's
biggest challenge over the next four years would be to stay sane;
"I ask you, is he?" Rush asks.

*BREAK*

Phone   Prim from New Bedford, OR

Prim says that Perot is a bit regressive and his views are not
good for any business, except perhaps his own. Prim notes that
Perot made all the males who worked for him get the same bad
haircut he had, and this is all part of his desire to have his
own little private army which he can lead. Prim thinks Perot is a
megalomaniac who's trying to feed off his own image. Prim says
that he was originally a Perot supporter because he believed in
the people taking back their country, but he realized Perot was
not the guy to be leading such a movement.

Prim also says that California's Esselin Institute was mentioned
on Good Morning America this morning. He adds that Joan Lunden
was prominently featured in that segment, and he wishes Rush "the
best of luck and good wishes."

Rush appreciates that but stresses that his remark about Lunden
was taken out of context on the 20-20 interview. First, Barbara
Walters asked Rush if he were seeing anybody. Rush replied that
he, like Barbara, didn't answer questions like that about his
private life in public; besides, he joked, if he named one woman,
"the other five would get livid at me."

Walters persisted along this line of questioning, asking Rush if
there was anyone he'd like to meet. Rush didn't have any answer
for her, so he had a spur-of-the-moment whim to have some fun
with the question by asking Walters to call Joan Lunden for him.
Rush joked that Walters, since she knew Rush was just a harmless,
lovable fuzzball, could call Lunden and let her know that he's
really a nice guy. Thus, the portion of that segment which
appeared on the air was shown totally out of context.

Rush doesn't know why some things from the interview were used
and not others. For example, he was also asked if he ever wanted
to be a father, so after a long, serious discussion of this
subject, he added the tag line, "Besides, Barbara, America needs
me as a father." The show, though, didn't use this great and
provocative line.

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